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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Really Think They Can Fool Anyone With Their "Anonymous" Questions and Canned Responses?
Oops!!!! I shouldn't say fool, I should say "educate".
Tee, Why do you try to make a point by quoting parts of verses out of context? The image of corruptible mankind, but also includes birds, four-footed creatures, and crawling creatures? Are you saying Trinitarians worship all of them? If so, you have some explaining to do. And if you aren't, you have even more explaining to do. "Professing to be wise" doesn't give you that latitude.
Paul wasn't describing Trinitarians at all, was he? After all, he was a Trinitarian.
More troubling to me than the false accusations thrown against me by Teem is his complete and total rejection of the worship of Jesus Christ. Angels in heaven bow down in worship before him, the 24 elders lay their crowns and his feet, but TeeM is professing to be wiser than they. Yet he will stand in judgment before Jesus to hear his eternal fate. Will he be contrite? Or will he continue to tell Jesus "You're a phony". "He who denies me before men, I will deny before my Father in Heaven.
I wonder which "degrading teaching listed by Paul" apply to Trinitarians. Must be pretty bad to be condemned by the JWs.
5 Answers
- ?Lv 43 months agoFavourite answer
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The problem is David they Have substituted Jesus for their Governing Body. Even in their NW mistranslation of the Holy Scriptures in (2 Corinthians 5:20) They admit this when they add the word substitute. ”We are therefore Ambassadors SUBSTITUTING for Christ”. Now of course this not found in any original MS or even in their own Kingdom interlinear. No one can substitute for Christ. In short, they are a substitute Religion, Preaching a substitute Gospel, with a substitute Jesus. Hoping to live on a substitute Paradise earth, Governed by a substitute 144,000. This is why the watchtower is collapsing.
EDIT: See what I mean? Even in his update teem has to mention the ‘Trinity’ this is what I mean by obsession.
As for your last statement Teem, I already know the true God. On the 25th 0f February 1975 at 7:45 PM I repented of my sin and committed my life to the Jesus that you spend hours on here stripping of His deity. It was a life changing experience and over the years it has been a joy to serve him in many different capacities. You see teem, that is the difference between us.
I came to Jesus that I might have life (John 5:40) You on the other hand, have to be a member a man-made organization who have become a substitute for Christ and obey their dictates to the letter. Jesus isn’t your mediator, as your publications clearly state. Following their commands is your way to salvation, of which you don’t have any assurance until you have passed the final test by satan, at the end of the 1000-year millennial reign, and even then you may not make it.
“Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6.) The way is through Jesus teem, NOT an organization. You can have assurance TODAY if you will only come to Jesus.
It was amusing to read the JW teem’s answer. He starts it of “What about Trinitarians”? Can someone point out to him that the question isn’t even about the doctrine of the trinity!
What would you say if you went into a shop and asked for a loaf of bread and the shopkeeper said, “What about an electrical socket”???
What teem’s answer does is demonstrate his obsession with the subject.
'Obsession'… “an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind”.
The doctrine of the trinity continually preoccupies and intrudes upon his mind.
Perhaps God is trying to tell him something!
- 2 months ago
Lol....I can smell their posts 100 miles away.
Their cult speak is very clear.
Reb is 100% correct!
- daylily61Lv 63 months ago
JWs are probably satisfied with just telling themselves "they've tried, so it's not their fault if non-JWs reject [what they think is] The Truth."
- TeeMLv 73 months ago
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I am obsessed with the pure worship of Jehovah.
I am obsessed with helping people flee from false worship.
Do trinitarians worship four legged creatures? No but they do fulfill one of the God degrading teachings listed by Paul.
My prayer for both David and Reb is that you both come to know the only true God, the God and Father of our heavenly glorified Lord Jesus Christ.
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It is the trinitarian who states: "God became a man . . ." thus fulfilling Paul's statement of being a fool.
It is the trinitarian who states: "We are wise" thus fulfilling Paul statement of who is the fool.
Thus Romans 1:22, 23 does apply to trinitarians.
Sadly it is the trinitarian who misquotes, and misapplies scripture to teach something not found in scripture.
Paul never said 'God became a man'. But he did say:
(Romans 15:5-6) 5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant YOU to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, 6 that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
(1 Corinthians 8:6) “6 there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.”
(1 Corinthians 15:24) 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.
(2 Corinthians 1:3) 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort,
(2 Corinthians 11:31) 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, even the One who is to be praised forever, knows I am not lying.
(Galatians 1:3-5) 3 May YOU have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and [the] Lord Jesus Christ. 4 He gave himself for our sins that he might deliver us from the present wicked system of things according to the will of our God and Father, 5 to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.
(Ephesians 1:3) 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ,
(Ephesians 1:17) 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give YOU a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him;
(Ephesians 4:6) 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.
(Ephesians 5:20) 20 in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ giving thanks always for all things to our God and Father.
(Philippians 4:20) 20 Now to our God and Father be the glory forever and ever. Amen.
(1 Thessalonians 1:3-4) 3 for we bear incessantly in mind YOUR faithful work and [your] loving labor and [your] endurance due to [your] hope in our Lord Jesus Christ before our God and Father. 4 For we know, brothers loved by God, his choosing of YOU,
(1 Thessalonians 3:11-13) 11 Now may our God and Father himself and our Lord Jesus direct our way prosperously to YOU. 12 Moreover, may the Lord cause YOU to increase, yes, make YOU abound, in love to one another and to all, even as we also do to YOU; 13 to the end that he may make YOUR hearts firm, unblamable in holiness before our God and Father at the presence of our Lord Jesus with all his holy ones.
Paul tells us 'We can not come to know truth until we know the God and Father of the heavenly glorified Jesus Christ.'
Someone a trinitarian can never know.
In God's word the terms: God and Father are synonymous
Whereas Jesus and Christ are synonymous.
Side point: according to Merrian-Webster Collegiate Diction "Godhead / Godship" means 'divine nature or essence'
Many non-english translations use the word 'divinity' which is defined as 'the quality of state of being divine'
Divine: 'god like'
Nature and essence are qualities, thus the NWT of Col 2:9 is very accurate.
What trinitarians hate about this accurate translation is it teaches the truth and removes the false idea that Paul is teaching; Jesus is God'.
Is Jesus divine or godlike? Yes, but that doesn't make him God.
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What about trinitarians who are trying to fool people with their anonymous questions and canned responses?
As to 'fools', this is how Paul describes trinitarians.
(Romans 1:22, 23) 22 Although claiming they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man . . .
- Anonymous3 months ago
I like it when they don't know someone is trolling (when it's blatantly obvious) and try to recruit that person for their cult.